James Jacob Gump & The Man Who Killed Elvis (updated)

When I first researched James Jacob Prasch 2 years ago I initially only looked at his claims made about others and I found his claims to be absurd lies. Over time I began to look at some of the claims Prasch has made about himself, and it turned out Prasch has been just as keen to lie about himself as he has been to lie about others, albeit the lies he has told about himself have been calculated to result in his personal enrichment whilst his lies uttered against others are designed to cause them harm.

Prasch’s exposed lies about his life revolve largely around his fool claim that he’s a half Jew from his father’s side, when Prasch’s OWN BROTHER Bob denies the fool claim. Prasch has claimed to be a half Jew as a means to enrich himself as he teaches Jewish Midrash so being half Jewish apparently gives him additional credibility, and around that total lie he has created other elements of the half Jew façade, such as him being recorded multiple times with church audiences claiming his son was in an IDF tank combat brigade (for 2 years). The reality however was his son Eli merely had a DESK JOB, but that reality didn’t assist in the conversion of money into Prasch’s charity Moriel’s coffers, so he exaggerated massively and actively deceived potentially tens of thousands of people.

Prasch the fake Jew in a Kippa

I’ve recorded a lot of video and documentary evidence to expose Prasch as a notorious habitual fake Jew charlatan and fraudster who has gone to the extreme length of forging and presenting a DNA report as a means to ‘prove’ to his paying fans he’s still Jewish.

But one of my lesser-presented topics about Prasch’s life of lies has been his Forrest Gump-like life of apparently coincidentally meeting and conversing with all manner of famous folks including Kings, Prime Ministers (30min), a serial killer, Oscar winners, and most commonly famous musicians. Consider the following claims of Prasch which link him to all these 1960s-70s era musicians…

Prasch claims he was once in the “pop music industry,” and was, and still is, friends with “major major pop stars“…

Prasch spoke to former Beatle John Lennon, gave him a copy of The Chronicles of Narnia, and saw him again…not long before he died

Prasch knew John Lennon’s first wife Cynthia Lennon

Prasch partied with The Rolling Stones at Mick Jagger‘s birthday in NYC

…claims he travelled to the event in an elevator with Rolling Stone Charlie Watts

…and was accompanied by Count Basie the jazz musician…

Prasch boasted he slept with one of the wives of The Rolling Stones, and claims to still be friends, yet a cursory search of Prasch’s 676 Facebook friends doesn’t find her, nor anybody else on this list…

The Johnny
Ramone statue

Prasch used to “take drugs with” and “got stoned with” members of the punk band The Ramones, although Prasch incorrectly identified (twice) his supposed late friend Joey Ramone as Johnny Ramone when seeing the latter’s statue in a Hollywood cemetery. Prasch also claimed all 4 original members of The Ramones are buried in Hollywood, but only 2 are (Dee Dee and Johnny)…

Prasch knew David Bowie well enough to determine he was smarter than Mick Jagger…

Prasch knew another of The Beatles, George Harrison, and gave him, via a go-between dentist, a testimony book with an attack inscription in the front page railing at him, resulting in George Harrison throwing the book in rage, before then taking it back to read….not long before he died

Prasch also claims to have known Kinks frontman Ray Davies, as well as Little Richard, and Cliff Richard whom he met at an “artist’s meeting” in NYC…

Prasch’s ‘connections’ to the Pop world meant he in recent years got a “stage pass” to see Blondie and Phil Collins, yet conveniently turned them down…

…and Prasch even connects his (clearly false) Christian conversion to Bob Dylan by stating he was saved near to Bob Dylan’s house in Manhattan.

Prasch’s narcissism inhaler

Prasch seems to be oddly attracted to the mystique of musicians, despite commonly railing against the music world in his attack videos, almost as if he likes inserting himself into their lives and sponging some of their aura, converting it into a supply of narcissism he can snort as his audience hears his name-dropping. Case in point is Prasch railing against musicians supposedly belonging to the Devil, yet is here seen sponging the aura of musician Robert Johnson, the brilliant 1930s singer who was Patient Zero in terms of musicians alleged to have sold their soul to the Devil for music success:

A bit ironic, isn’t it? Not only Prasch apparently revering a man who is alleged to have sold his soul to the Devil, but also Prasch being photographed with so much booze nearby, including Jack Daniels, considering I’ve pointed out his reliance on the drink. The photograph was taken by and posted on the Pinterest photo collection of one David Lister.

Prasch’s drive to remain high and giddy from the supply of narcissism his inserting himself into the lives/mystique of musicians and his name-dropping produces has however resulted in him in his giddy (possibly drunk) state to reveal who killed Elvis Presley. No joke!

In the following video, speaking to young people in 2017 in Brisbane, Australia (the city coincidentally that listed Prasch’s Moriel group as a suspected cult back in 2003), Prasch starts name-dropping, begins getting high, has to cover his eyes multiple times rather oddly, and then directly implicates his Moriel 2nd in command secretary/treasurer and Robert Johnson gravesite photographer David Lister as the person who collected the drugs which killed Elvis Presley the next day! [Play from 1:21:30 for Elvis claim, or 1:19:00 for earlier name dropping]

[UPDATE: As of the end of 2020, Zion Chapel where Prasch made the Elvis claim, have deleted all their videos of Prasch. Here is the original link, and here is all that remains.] So below is the segment in question that I copied from that hastily deleted video:

“The guy who works—runs—our ministry in America, David Lister, he worked for Elvis Presley in Graceland when Elvis died.  Um, he worked for Elvis’s brother Ricky actually, but the night before Elvis Presley died, David, whose now with us, his job—one of his jobs—he went out with a forged prescription and he got these pills for Elvis with the forged prescription.  I know who killed Elvis, now he works for me. But anyway. He was in that—he was in Graceland when Elvis died, [unintelligible] it was almost the day before.  He told me everything.”

Jacob Prasch, Zion Chapel (Brisbane, Australia), August 25th 2017

So in Prasch’s own words, David Lister, his Moriel second in command “killed Elvis”. What’s interesting is David Lister can actually be placed in the proximity of Elvis since according to public records David Lister (aka Filister) lived only a few minutes from Graceland:

…which means Prasch, in knowing Lister’s culpability, is technically aiding a person directly implicated in killing the King, necessitating either Prasch speaks to Memphis Police, or David Lister hand himself in for the crime of engaging in the illegal distribution of drugs resulting in death.

Bonus Content: Famous Amos (or so he claims)

Amos Farrell:
the face of an idiot

Due to the fantastical claims of Jacob Prasch and their relationship to popular music, I thought here may be an ideal place to highlight a very particular and as-yet unproven claim made by another Moriel member about their supreme achievements in the music world. This time around the claim stems from Jacob Prasch’s Ultra cult member Amos Farrell in the middle of an attempted and failed takedown of Moriel critic (and successful musician) Tim Wirth. I’ve highlighted the claim in the whole post below:

Here is the boast in question:

So Amos Farrell, known to have been a Police Officer in London for a few years, and a Fake Police Officer from 2019 with a drive to release fake Police documents to close down enquiry into his object of fascination and “lord” Jacob Prasch, claims in his life he has been a drummer who has performed to larger audiences than professional career musician/drummer Tim Wirth (Gary Lewis & The Playboys, The Coasters, and others) has done; has played to “heads of state all over the world”, and to “VVIPS”.

“Famous” Amos’s rather wild claim was made in mid September 2020 and as of today remains on his RTN TV Facebook feed, but also remains unverified, so while we wait for David Lister to hand himself in to Police in Memphis for his involvement in killing Elvis, we can also wait for Amos Farrell to substantiate his wildly successful drumming career claims.

Amos the Exaggerator (part 2)

Researcher Treena Gisborn had noted in 2019 Amos had engaged in wild exaggeration about his successes in Policing too, for in his frankly idiotic fake Police Report he and 2 Moriel admins published in Spring 2019 to aid Prasch escaping inquiry into his obvious and heavily documented spiritual abuse, Amos made a wild claim about his position in the Metropolitan Police:

Treena found Amos was merely a Sergeant and not a Sr. Detective (a job that is NINE positions higher than Amos’ 2nd lowest position in the Police). Treena contacted the Metropolitan Police about this, writing,

“Earlier this year Farrell claimed to be “Sergeant Amos Farrell Sr. Detective (retired) Scotland Yard Metropolitan Police, London (UK)”. I contacted the Metropolitan Police and complained about Farrell’s gross inflation of his former position. Here in the UK, the rank of Sergeant is a junior position, only one rank above that of Police Constable, the lowest ranking police officer. There are no less than nine ranks above Sergeant in the Metropolitan Police! Farrell’s title would have been Detective Sergeant and certainly not Senior Detective! Unsurprisingly, apart from sending me a brief acknowledgement, the Metropolitan Police have done absolutely nothing to address this matter as far as I am aware. Apparently publicly misrepresenting oneself as a retired “Senior Detective” is not an issue for them!”

-Treena Gisborn (blog)

Amos the “Sr. Detective”, Lister who “killed Elvis”, and Prasch the “half Jew” have a lot of substantiation to provide me with, and I’m still waiting…

50 thoughts on “James Jacob Gump & The Man Who Killed Elvis (updated)

  1. Yes, I was for sure going to weigh in on this one. Here is my opinion on how and why these liars lied like they did. Let’s start with David Lister. If you look at a picture of Memphis Mafia which was the group Elvis hung out with there is a guy that kinda looks like Lister but it’s not him its check out the first guy talking in this clip. It does look a little bit like Lister and Lister’s parents as well as David did live in Memphis but this guy in the movie clip is not Lister.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVPmwnUmPok. . When Prasch first told me this I went face to face with Lister and asked him if this was true “That he even knew Elvis?’ Lister just shook his head and said: “That Jacob.” Lister never admitted it to it or denied it. I think they just made up the story because David does kind of look like one the guys in the Memphis Mob. also not that for someone from Memphis Lister has zero Southern accent at all. Take note that Elvis got prescription drugs from his doctor George Nichopoulos. I also was friend’s with Hal Blaine one of Elvis drummers. Hal played on the Wrecking Crew. Hal did not know who David Lister is or was. As for Prasch’s stories they always changed. at one point he said he gave George Harrison “The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe” from CS Lewis (which I thought was an odd book to witness with) and then that story often changed to “Mere Christianity” by CS Lewis. And Prasch was in Harrison’s hospital room? Really? SMH. If he had access to Harrison’s hospital room why not just share the gospel. Most of all if Harrison was dying and his time was short. Yes, I’m sure someone will read a book while being in critical condition from cancer. Harrison died in 2001 in LA so it may be pretty easy to see if Prasch was in California at the time according to his schedule since James lives in England. I can prove all the people I played with through photos and recordings so let’s see Amos do that.
    No these guys live in a world they created.
    That world would probably amaze even Walter Mitty.
    Saw your comment on Bill Randles blog
    Yes everyone is feeling pretty betrayed sooner or later by Prasch and Moriel the professional bridge burners.

    1. Lister is 62 meaning he was 19 in 1977 when Elvis died. So he was basically a kid who lived nearby and lived somewhat vicariously through Elvis. He probably saw the Memphis Mafia around the place. The Memphis Mafia engaged in Elvis’s bizarre obsessions such as thinking their replica and real Police badges made them real cops, so they all contributed to Elvis’s mental decline and his departure from reality. That’s them in 1970:

      With that in mind it’s interesting how neighborhood kid David Lister eventually became a part of the very similar Moriel Mafia with its fake Police, contributing to Prasch’s mental decline and his departure from reality.
      Your surroundings as a kid really go some way to outlining what you’ll become.
      He’d have done better growing up nearby Don Williams.

  2. The larger problem with James Gump is when people take the attitude of “O that Jacob” or “It’s just Jacob”. These enablers enable Prasch to continually sin because they know what happens. I was at an event held by a Moriel church in Columbus when Prasch at his “Meet and greet” a lady wanted her book signed and asked James if he ever had any books that he read and narrated. Prasch quickly replied ” Well I could read Lady Chatterley’s Lover to you and then laughed. The lady was an attractive blond and there was a line of people there as well as 2 members of the leadership of that church who just shook their heads and walked away. The lady was visibly uncomfortable and there was a line of people. The fact that Prasch felt comfortable with this and often telling bawdy jokes before conferences while the sponsor’s twinge shows you the power Prasch’s bullying has over people. Now Lister loves Prasch so he may correct him but Prasch never repents or changes and Lister knows that. Very bad place to be for both parties.

      1. That’s a keeper. Lol. And Prasch judges others harshly when he needs to take a look in the mirror

  3. Why Lister would continue to allow Prasch to make these statements publically is beyond me. Prasch in the clip is not joking around and does he not know or care this could really have some serious consequences? SMH

  4. Hey, bro, I’m borrowing a couple pictures for my video. I will give you the proper credits. THX

    1. Wait until the Memphis police department, the FBI and Elvis’s fan club’s see this video. There are over 600 fan clubs worldwide. The largest is The Official Elvis Presley Fan Club of Great Britain, with over 20,000 members. Next is the French club, called Elvis My Happiness. Father and son Paul and Elvis Aron Presley Macleod, from Holly Springs, Mississippi, claim to be the world’s No.

      1. Well do feel free to share it with any of their Facebook groups you know. It would be good to have not only Christians but Elvis fans calling Prasch and Lister to account.

      1. The way Prasch lets the stories fly off his lying tongue is beyond imagination.
        What’s worse is his cult followers laugh at someone killing someone else.
        Or even the suggestion of murder.
        A true cult

  5. Funny how Famous Amos focused on rudiments because I called out his god-king Prasch. I did not go on about my knowledge of rudiments but the point was that if Prasch does not know something he just makes it up. That is why there are no citations of quotes in his books. And that’s why he surrounds himself with people who will obey the order of the god-king Prasch. As far a Prasch saying Lister works for him is pretty funny. David controls what money he can for Moriel. Lister told me “Jacob does not always get what he wants but gets what he needs”. Meaning that if the money was in Prasch’s hands it would all be gone by now. Lister does love James very much but he is the only one that really counts for anything on the supposed board. Notice board members are not even listed anywhere in Moriel Materials. That’s because Lister and Prasch run the show. For richer or poorer until death do they part.

  6. Well, I hope they make this right soon. I would have to turn the video evidence to Michael Rawlings

  7. Just another thought here in this story. I have read the comments made by supposably Jacob Prasch. The YouTube profile dates back to Aug of 2011. Here is my take. Jacob has terrible grammar and is dyslexic. Sandy Simpson or others would have to proof any statement Prasch put out to check for grammatical errors and terrible writing. So could this be Josh using Praschs’s login? Josh has no problem using fake YouTube ID’s and he can tell his side of the marriage story without making a direct comment using his own name. That way with Moriel’s dwindling number’s. I see this as a way that Moriel could take Josh back into its loving arms and improve their numbers as well. Read the statements on the string. It is getting to not sound like Prasch who usually writes in the third person. Just a thought. And for sure pray for Joelle. I pray she comes out and tells her side of the story.-Tim

    1. It sounds to me like Prasch, has many of his turns of phrase. Maybe he dictated it to Pavia, hence there is no mention of their criminal son Eli, despite the topic being broached by Joshua.
      Funny how the comment thread was generated by Prasch wanting to witchhunt Doreen Virtue, the context of it being last week Doreen outed worshippers of the Metatron, such as Prasch, as demon worshippers.

      1. Agreed that this is probably Prasch after reading it again. Pavia would not have been part of this and I doubt Sandy would have proofed any of this for him. I see this as a set up to bring Josh back into Moriel because Josh has a lot more numbers and Moriel and their affiliates are to stupid to realize all their numbers are going down because they are proven liars and many people (even some hardcore Ultras ) are sick of it. I hope Joelle tells her story. So I guess for Moriel fornication is easier to excuse than divorce. SMH. What a bunch of ratbags.Nice of Prasch to call my wife Donna’s dying from Alzheimer’s. Prasch states “maybe you can become a professional money-grubbing continual sob story parasite like Tim Wirth.” What an uncivil, unChristlike punk. Who talks like that? And yes I do have a Go Fund Me out there because I take care of Donna 24/7 and cannot take an additional part-time job because the daycare place Donns was at for about 6 hours a day has been closed almost a year now due to Covid. . For Prasch to say stuff like that is low even for him.

  8. So Prasch made the following statement for Josh. I guess Josh cant man up on his own. Here is the statement with my comments. aregiver. Could I do this without Jesus? No way. But its hardly a sob story even though I am sad that Donna is dying of Alzheimer’s. What a punk bully you are. Let’s have a nice face to face chat if you ever make it back to the states.
    [I snapshot your comment, Tim. -tbckawaii]

      1. The verbiage being used here is just semantics being played so Moriel can get Josh back into the fold. Josh and his groupies of course.

      2. It’s an interesting theory. If that fool Beavis Christi feels he has to shelter under the bingo wings of Prasch then it would reveal Beavis to be a wuss out on the hunt for a protector. Makes sense since he allegedly was looking for a wife to be his provider too. He’s such a disgrace to man.

  9. Right from the front pages of Moriel.org (I kid you not). [Edit: I’ve taken a screenshot for you Tim. -tbckawaii]

    cue James Taylor “Mexico”?
    “Oh, down in Mexico
    I never really been so I don’t really know
    Oh, Mexico
    I guess I’ll have to go”

  10. TBC anyway to check when the above statement was posted to Moriel.org. I know it wasnt there last week

    1. I checked archive.org, but the last snapshot of the page was November 1st. Between Google, Yahoo, and Bing cache searches, all I can find is it was there yesterday. It wasn’t there a couple of days ago when I found the new Moriel Quarterly.
      It’s very strange behaviour from Lister.

      1. Yes, I looked at the site last week and Lister’s post was not there.
        We still need to keep these guys in prayer.
        Lister has dealt with parents who have Alzheimer’s so I feel for him
        And when Sandy and I were still fellowshipping after I left Moriel we both noticed that Lister’s memory was getting quite bad which is very sad because of Alzheimer’s runs in families.
        If does not excuse the behaviour and lies but I still pray they repent.
        I am going to start focusing on FBC and Haller as well as Marco and Devoid of Truth in CA.
        These guys are aware of the problems and they ignore them.
        Most of all Haller.
        Still has the mentally compromised person Linda running their YouTube page.
        Linda even thinks she can prove that Deborah and Stewart Menalaws is you TBCKawaii.
        So yes cults do attract unstable people.

  11. They could be liquidating assets who knows. I notice their affiliate list is shrinking just like Hallers FBC numbers

  12. Yes, it seems Lister is on the run.
    We will see what happens
    Still praying they repent and retire

  13. I was watching the news highlights back then when I saw Phil Spector wearing that hairdo. I swear I have never laughed so hard in my life😂🤣😂🤣‼️

  14. Well all I can say is Geraldo Rivera who did the original expose on who killed Elvis now has this video so I guess we will see. Or not.

      1. Prasch’s Spanish is pretty good and they could take Bobblehead Marco with them. Marco quit his factory job to work for Moriel

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